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Space Marine Bolt Rifle by dirtbiker715 Space Marine Bolt Rifle by dirtbiker715
A Space marine Bolt Rifle was widely used in the Space Marine forces that fought more than 500 different kinds of races, orks, Eldar, Chaos, Tau, Imperial Guard, Necrons and other races. Comparing to the .40 magnum bullet and .50 caliber round to the Bolt round which is not a grenade launcher round. Here is a photo of a Space marine holing his bolt gun [link] Those Bolt Rifle can shred a M1A1 Abram in less than 20 seconds with full clip magazine. Very heavy for a normal soldier to carry. Only for the superhuman soldiers with heavy armor to support the weight basically makes them a walking tank.

[link] A war that you cannot survive in less than one minute with a normal soldier. The Space marines have been around for nearly ever since the legends begin to grow. They only fight for the good of their powerful god, The emperor.

Comparing the bullets to the Space Marine rounds, think you can survive from one shot?


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Night-Soulless-Dust Featured By Owner May 29, 2014
Aussault rilfe?
Rocket Launcher?
why not both xD
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DarqfangofSeido Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Student Writer
If I got shot with that thing, I would no anything that got shot. Limb? Amputated for free. Chest. What chest? Head? Splat. Guts? Everywhere.
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S3dition Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Student Interface Designer
Something to point out - bolters fire .75 caliber rounds, which are 3/5 inch. I know GW always portrays them as pop cans, but it's still an extremely large cartridge. It also fits their stats much more accurately, as the 3" bore size GW draws them with is literally an anti-tank weapon and would probably be more like str7 ap4 in game terms. Heck, they even rival autocannons.
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neosapian6 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Student Artist
space marines: they carry armor piercing rounds by default...
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AlexanderEricson Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Guns come in three sizes in Warhammer 40k: Wee; Not so wee; and FRICKIN HUUUGE!

Excellent work. I never really knew how large a bolt was (I always thought it was about 1.5 inches in diameter).

 When the Emperor wants something dead, he makes sure it'll have to be glued back together in hell.

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Wyzilla Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Bolt rounds are actually .75 caliber, as it's hard to tell it you tried to make them .75 caliber or if the Bolter isn't in proportion to the Bolt rounds.

Also, considering how absurd Warhammer vehicles are*, I think it's safe to say a Predator is far beyond the capabilities of an Abrams. And depending on the Bolter rounds used, the tank would either survival with superficial damage and possible some minor actual damage, or destroyed, considering as well, the showings for bolters can get into ridiculous levels.

*It was either a Leman Russ or a Baneblade that survived a point-blank bomb equal to a small nuke in size that left a massive crate, and launched the tank over fifty feet into the air. All the occupants survived.
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I would not go far enough to say they can shred a M-1 given that a standard human has a (Slim) chance of passing a toughness test to survive getting shot by one.

I'd say a M-1, thanks to both armor and much better design, is about equivalent to a predator armed with a vanquisher cannon with some odd funky rules regarding fire support, coordinating fire and shooting on the move.
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zen133 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
don't let me get started on the recoil of this thing
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MolaritheNarn Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
Uhm. The bolt guns recoil is no more than an average handgun as the charge is only meant to propel the round out of the barrel. After the round has left the barrel the rocket propelant is ignited, accelerating the round to it`s final velocity.
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zen133 Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
hmm that makes a lot of sense
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MolaritheNarn Featured By Owner May 4, 2014
Incerasing the weigth or speed of the round requires an icrease in charge. This again demands a stonger barrel and firing mechanism further incrasing weigth and size of the gun. Using a rocket propelled round allows thus for the firing of disproportional sized rounds in the case of HE or Fragmentation warheads or faster rounds in the case of Armor Piercing munitions. For example see the german Sturmfaust that used a disproportional sized warhead that could not be fired from any conventional hand held weapon but was instead -like the RPG-7- a rocket propelled grenade fired from a launch tube. The idea  of the "Bolt gun" was to give troops a weapon with more punch than a conventional gun but less unwieldy than a Bazooka.

It was also a lot more than I wanted to write on the subject of technological realism in a gun developed at least 20,000 years in the future.

I did it anyway. So that settles it for me.
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emax130 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Bipropelled rounds, using both a propellent like modern guns then a high powered rocket that kicks in when it exits the barrel, no where as powerful or as efficient as the technology of the Tau, as graceful and elegant as the Eldar weaponry or as entertaining and simple Ork tools
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MolaritheNarn Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
Bud id`s gotsa Dakka anyweays. :)
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masonicon Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2012  Student General Artist
you forgot that Bolter are comes in 2 sizes: Astartes size and Mortal Size
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Fauntloroy Featured By Owner May 23, 2014
The rounds are interchangable if the RPGs are worth anything in canon.
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Zephyriguana Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2012
Uhm, yeah, I know I'm likely jumping into this party a bit late, but, I'd like to comment on a few things.

1. Your reference rounds are out of scale. Not talking about the bolt rounds, WHICH I will address, but, the 44 magnum, 5.7X28mm and .50 caliber. A .44 magnum's case is 33mm long. I have measured a 5.7X28mm round against a .44 Special case which is 29mm. The rounds are almost the same size. You must have used a cartridge smaller than a 9mm parabellum.

2. Your bolt gun ammo is HUGE!

3. The 'standard' bolt round, has an adamantium tipped projectile, with a mass reactive fuse and explosive charge behind it. Meaning that, if it hits someone, it will punch a hole in the target. A fraction of a second later the charge will detonate, turning that .75 caliber hole into something resembling a honeydew melon. Even more insidious is the fact that if the round hits armor, if it penetrates, it will continue on to do the same thing. Hit something fleshy and explode.

4. There are other forms of ammo. All are rather nasty in purpose and design. The Metalstorm is designed to explode a distance from the target, shredding it with shrapnel. The Kraken armor piercing round has 2 adamantine tips, with a small booster charge behind the first one, so when it hits a heavily armored target, the booster charge will go off, helping to punch a hole in the armor and let the main charge go through to do its lethal purpose. And so on and so forth...
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devilscalling Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
no offensce but i'd think a terran marine would kick these guys ass, and a Spartan from halo would kick their ass. played and loved all three games and most of their pre/sequels
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner May 28, 2012
Nope. Warhammer 40,000 is the Western equivalent of Dragon Ball. Space Marine gene therapy is horribly aggressive (they shove 18 extra organs into their new recruits); their weapons are ridiculously overpowered, and the space marines in the video games are horribly underpowered.

Lore states that Space Marines are implanted a sheet of fabric under their skin called the Black Carapace that is basically bulletproof. Their bones are transformed that they become bulletproof as well. And their ribs become interlocking plates of bulletproof bone armor (hory shet). Anything wanting to get to a Space Marine's vital organs will have to go through 50mm of armor made of material stronger than diamond, and at least 15mm of bulletproof bone.

And everything they use is made out of "Adamantium" which is according to lore, the strongest material the Imperium of Man uses, ever. Plasma weapons can penetrate their armor (but it takes several shots for an Imperial plasma gun), but Halo's energy sword is too thin, and the Covenant's plasma rifles and pistols fire too small plasma blobs to do anything significant. The Needler requires that that its needles at least partially penetrate the enemy's armour to do any significant damage, and with low muzzle velocity and high brittleness, I don't see them penetrating Space Marine Power Armor. The Terran Marine Gauss Rifle fires hypersonic pieces of neosteel... I don't know how strong neosteel is.

However, a SPARTAN Laser would do the trick, but it cannot penetrate SM Terminator armor. Not even Imperial Lascannons can, and they shoot bigger lasers than the SPARTAN laser!

And Master Chief will defecate bricks if he goes up against Grey Knight Master Kaldor Draigo. The guy put down an extremely powerful daemon on his FIRST MISSION AS A RAW RECRUIT, carved the previous Grey Knight Master's name onto the heart of a Daemon Prince of Disease and banish him, AND NOT GET SICK IN THE AFTERMATH. He looked upon and slaughtered the Chosen Sisters of Slaanesh, which according to lore, takes only one look to steal your soul since they're all so sexy and tempting. And the guy escaped an impossible maze created by the Architect of Fate and the God of All Knowledge... and the guy set fire to the Lord of Death and Decay's garden. And the guy is now fighting billions of daemons (since he is in the Warp) like a bawss.

Also, a SM Librarian can just explode anyone's head with their psycho-magicks. Even other Space Marines.

And did I mention that a Space Marine Terminator can get stepped on by a 200-foot tall giga-megaton mecha and walk away like nothing happened?

And did I mention the Sanguinor, a 10-foot tall Space Marine with angel wings who breaks greater daemons' backs over his knee?

And did I mention the Space Wolves, who ride wolves the size cows into battle, and are so Nordic and Viking they put the Dovahkiin to shame?

And did I mention the Grey Knights, who once cleared an entire planet infested with daemons (trillions upon trillions of them) with just TWELVE SPEHSS MURREENS?

Overpowered? It's supposed to be overpowered. It's Warhammer 40,000, and there is only war. And there must be soldiers ready and willing to fight in that war.

Also,

I created an account just to change your thoughts about Space Marines.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner May 28, 2012
ok let me stop you there. if something is harder then a diamond it cannot be broken, so if there armor and bone are made of that stuff they they CANT die. we actually have exposed diamonds to plasma and nothing happened to the diamond...so yea. i also want to point out that a spartan is incredible fast. runnning at speeds of over 100Mph, lightning fast reflexes like snatching bullets out of the air, and have titanium hard bones. with the strength of twenty men each, add another twenty if they have their armor on, and there speed is doubled. im not entering a pissing contest mines better then yours blah blah. and maybe that one guy really is bad ass. but you cant just say he wins every time, because the 'cheif' has luck. as in real luck. but if space marines are so powerful why do they need so many? if twelve can wipe out a planet. im saying space marines are like god modded. and when it comes to god modding i do write novels. and i got a mech its not big but i bet with a 40% speed of light rapid fire rail gun. and over a dozen other weapon systems i could wipe out space marines. i've never read the 40k books but i played the games and they seemed like they were cannnon fodder...
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stillhiding88 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
On what planet can nothing as hard as diamond be broken? Seriously? Just because someting is hard doesn't mean it's impervious to damage. A steel plate is harder than a bullet, and I've seen AK rounds go through 1/4 inch steel. Volocity is the name of the game. The rail guns the US Navy is currently testing use a 20 or 30mm round (can't remember off the top of my head), and hits with the force of a 2000 lb bomb.

As a side note, you can mash a diamond to dust with a hammer. A regular hammer.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2012
actually i pretty sure you cant smash a diamond with a hammer. i've seen tons of vids on theft and they all said the same thing about jewls if you dont know a diamond is real try and smash it, because it wont the fake stuff will. you make something out of highly compressed dense diamond composite and it doesnt matter how hard you hit it at what speed it will just take the impact. diamond though is the past nano tubing is far superior
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
-"If Space Marines are so powerful, why do they need so many?"

Because, in Warhammer 40,000, everything is out to get humanity. Space Elves with amazing psychic powers; immortal demons that can rip your soul out; Egyptian-looking omnicidal space robot zombies with ships that can destroy stars; Ork hordes that know no fear and number in the tens of billions; Traitor Space Marines made even more overpowered by the Dark Gods, Communist Protoss with very advanced technology, etc. etc.

Warhammer 40,000 is a Tolkien fantasy brought to space... and made very, very, very, very, very, very overpowered.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
well if you have things so powerful like the grey knights..why not just make like 200 grey knights and watch them kill everything. like in my books the OMEN organic mass energy neutralizer think of it like a halo array but it kills everything that is alive. grass, bacteria, animals, plants. totally strips and planet bare. u use them on all the enemies bam you will fuc the orcs
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
There are 1,000 Grey Knights in the galaxy. One of them is trapped in the Warp (which is Hell) and is killing daemons left and right. The others are killing daemons in the real universe all over the Milky Way. They also like to keep themselves secret. So if a human sees them, they kill the human and coat their bullets in their blood, as a sign of respect. If a space marine sees them, they erase all knowledge about the grey knights from his mind. Only Space Marine Commanders, the Inquisition, and High-ranking Imperial Officials know that the Grey Knights exist.

Also, the Grey Knights think themselves too important, too skilled to engage anything but daemons and traitor space marines, because they think that aliens are unworthy of fighting against them. And they are right.

And as for the blowing up a planet/killing all life on it, the Imperium of Man actually does it a lot. Every day, in fact. If Chaos has tainted most of the planet's population into Satan-worshiping gits, or if xenos are too entrenched, they blow it up. And they don't care, because the Imperium has quadrillions more planets. Every day, trillions of innocent people die.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
well how the fck havent they won yet?..kill them all blow up all the planets...infected or conquered..just kill every enemy
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
The enemy has large fleets of ships and armies tens of trillions strong. Some aliens are able to teleport anywhere in the galaxy, others come from OUTSIDE the galaxy and have come to eat everything inside (think Zerg, but ten thousand times overpowered, and more spiky bits), and one alien race has ships (and gods) capable of destroying entire stars.

"So why hasn't humanity lost yet?"

Because of the Space Marines. They kill avatars of Eldar gods in humiliating ways, fend off billions of swarming orks (which are dumb, more ape-like orcs... in space) while losing only 4 of them; and they have unbreakable spirit. They are the most elite of all of the Imperium's forces, second only to the Adeptus Custodes, the Emperor's personal bodyguards.

Also, the Emperor of Mankind can destroy suns and still have enough energy to do a marathon spanning the Earth.

"So why haven't the aliens and the demons lost yet?"

Because one of his ridiculously overpowered sons (but not as overpowered as he is) mortally wounded him and now he's a tomato living only because of life support.

"If the Emperor is really that overpowered, why didn't he kill his son before he could strike?"

Because the Emperor was too forgiving. After being hit by a mace whose head explodes whatever it hits, the Emperor finally realized that his son was beyond saving and killed him with mind bullets. Then one of his other sons put him on a giant throne which also acts as life support, where he has been sitting on the past 10,000 years.

Also, after he's been put on the throne, Imperial citizens started worshiping the Emperor. The combined psychic might of dozens of quadrillions of people worshiping him as a god has turned the Emperor into a real God.

Unfortunately, he cannot go into battle because he's a rotting tomato sitting on a golden toilet.
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
"If something is harder than a diamond it cannot be broken."

This is fiction. Space Marines have weaponry that can easily break diamond.

-"SPARTANS catch bullets in the air, run at speeds of over 100mph, etc. etc."

UNSC propaganda. And some space marines can do that.

-"I played the games and space marines are cannon fodder."

They were made weak for balance.

-"Twelve wiped out a planet. Space Marines are god-modded."

No, the Grey Knights are simply that overpowered. Also, daemon-killing is their specialty.

-"With a 40% speed of light rapid-fire rail gun, I can kill space marines."

If your rail gun can break diamond, then yes, you can kill space marines.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
well you cant say fiction and they have weaponry that can do that (break diamond) nanotube carbon is a material that is so strong a sword made out of it would cut through solid objects made of diamond. if it were real and not a prototype. its ultra thin a blade would have a very tip that would measure one atom in with..so instead of 'cutting' things apart you'd just seperate the atoms. and 12 guys wiping out a planet? you know how long it would take? your not wrong this is just far fected
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D3F1LeR Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
This isn't far-fetched. This is Warhammer 40,000. If you've read the books, rulebooks, and other literature, you'd know how extremely overpowered space marines are.
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roman11777 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Heretic.
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devilscalling Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012
target pratice
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ReXspec Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Writer
Turn that back on yourself, and you'd be accurate...
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devilscalling Featured By Owner May 28, 2013
took you long enough to reply. no longer care...
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ReXspec Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Writer
That makes two of us...
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jeffraven Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012
Caliber on bolt rounds are too big. They're supposed to be a .75 caliber gyrojet. Basically, half-again as big as a .50 BMG round. And Astartes boltgun sickle magazines are supposed to have a capacity of 28 shells. The size as it is now, it could barely fit 8+1.

That said, the detail on this artwork is really nice. And there are canon drawings of different bolt shells if you'd want to dig those up.
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Urdnotvexed Featured By Owner May 19, 2013
The Astartes boltgun fires .998 calibre rounds. At least, that's what the codex says.
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masonicon Featured By Owner May 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Yes! especially for Mortal-sized ones
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Mandulis Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Heh. Sometimes, it's easy to forget that the Astartes most basic weapon is a small automatic rocket-launcher.

Eat bolter fire Xenos scum!
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MrPowell Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012
As a story written by a former soldier said:
"Never get into a gunfight with a caliber that starts with a number smaller then four hon,... Those big bullets make big holes and big holes are a good thing to inflict on other people."

I do believe the Bolter manages to epitomize that philosophy...
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Seukonnen Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
While the enthusiasm is charming and the bolter is snazzily rendered, you're rather wide of the mark in a number of your statements. Exaggerating both the size and the power of the bolter.

If you're interested I'd be happy to point out what details you've mixed up, but judging by your post tbh I kind of doubt you'll be of a mind to listen.
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dirtbiker715 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011
Go ahead, I'll listen. I'm just trying to get the idea of the Bolter rifle to those who have never heard of the Space Marines' weapons.
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Seukonnen Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Arrighty then (refreshing to see some reasonableness on the internet ;) ):

-Even though the barrel on them is really huge, Bolters are "only" .75 cal; meaning 3/4ths of an inch wide, or half again as wide as the .50 BMG bullet you have shown. 40mm grenades are a good inch or two in diameter. Whereas your diagram shows bolt shells as being significantly bigger than either of these.

-A bolt round is similar to an RPG in the way the projectile works, not the destructive power. A bolter round will smash straight through any modern body armor like it weren't there and turn a person into flying bits of limbs and an unpleasant red mist, and could probably put a car/jeep/hummer out of action easily with one or two shots, maybe blow it up by shooting the fuel tank. An RPG-7 will turn a small shack, trailer, or civilian SUV into a crater guaranteed, or gut a lightly armored vehicle like a hummer or an APC. However, RPG-7's bounce off of Abrams tanks like spitballs. :P

-Due to the writers at GW being goofs, the fluff-stated strength of an AV14 Land Raider's front armor is equivalent to 300mm of high-grade steel. The M1 abrams tank has a front armor rated at equivalent to about 1500mm of high grade steel. It's another one of those "depleted deuterium" (which, chemically, means hydrogen gas) things :P
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justicaralric Featured By Owner May 2, 2013
i'm loving how much you know about the lore, its brilliant, but i would just like to point out one thing. according to you an AV14 Land Raider's front armor is equivalent to 300mm of high-grade steel while the M1 abrams tank has a front armor rated to about 1500mm of high grade steel. This implies that an M1 Abrams tank is tougher than the land raider (unless it's a typo and you meant to say 150mm) i find this highly unlikely. Is it possible the Land raider is made of 300mm of adamantium? or 3000mm of high grade steel? i find it unlikely that a land raider is in fact weaker than a modern day tank considering even a lascannon has a hard time getting through the front armor of one of those bad boys.
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Seukonnen Featured By Owner May 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There is legitimately a bit of 40k source material claiming the Land Raider's armor to be equivalent to 300mm steel plate. It's from one of the Imperial Armor sourcebooks.

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Clearly, this is simply a product of laughably woeful ignorance on the part of the writer responsible for claiming so, because as you say, land raiders are shown in other fluff to take a level of punishment far beyond this. However, considering that some of my fellow 40k fans get... too enthusiastic... about the setting, I and others enjoy breaking out this little factoid in order to poke holes in overinflated egos. :P

It's much like how bolters' destructiveness and armor-piercing power is stated to be because of their 'depleted deuterium' core. If you know your chemistry, you know that depleted deuterium is hydrogen gas. Literally THE least dense element in the universe, and thus, quite possibly THE worst possible material to use for an armor-piercing core.

Does this mean that bolters magically stop packing a hell of a punch? No. It just means that we're aware that someone at Games Workshop goofed spectacularly. The setting is full of such little 'oops' moments on the part of its writers, which is why for all its badassery, one should be sure never to take it *too* seriously. ;)
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dirtbiker715 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011
Looks like you're a smart cookie.
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Seukonnen Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Nah, just overflowing with facts and trivia about stuff like game settings. Apart from those things your bolter is pretty ace. ;)
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dirtbiker715 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011
I see, well thanks for the information for the future references. :)
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fox0509 Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
SPESS MEHRINES FOR THE EMPRAH
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masonicon Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2011  Student General Artist
the main reason Antipersonnel guns in 41st Millennium must have enough firepower to destroys M1 Abrams in less than 20 seconds is: the Orks
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FredCheckers Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2011
The Codex astartes states a bolt's caliber to be .75, which is huge but not over 40mm. Cool pic though.
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